NDT training weaknesses and the ASNT ATO accreditation process
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NDT Management
| Tuesday, October 22, 2024 |
| 8:00 AM - 8:45 AM |
| 211/212 - Interactive Panels/Tech Session |
Overview
Presenters: Albert Wenzig & Paul Deeds
Details
While employer-based certification documents such as SNT-TC-1A and ASNT CP 189 have qualification benefits to industry, there is a “wide bandwidth” when implementing these documents. The qualification requirements for NDT certification are classroom training, on-the-job experience, and hands-on testing. Classroom training can be provided in several ways, including educational institutions, training organizations, internal employer-led training, and even online training. Considering the wide bandwidth in delivery, it is not unreasonable to assume a wide bandwidth of teaching, quality, and learning outcomes.
Speaker
Mr Marty Wenzig
President
Quality Consultants
NDT training weaknesses and the ASNT ATO accreditation process
Presentation Description
While employer-based certification documents such as SNT-TC-1A and ASNT CP 189 have qualification benefits to industry, there is a “wide bandwidth” when implementing these documents. The qualification requirements for NDT certification are classroom training, on-the-job experience, and hands-on testing. Classroom training can be provided in several ways, including educational institutions, training organizations, internal employer-led training, and even online training. Considering the wide bandwidth in delivery, it is not unreasonable to assume a wide bandwidth of teaching, quality, and learning outcomes.
Employers may have a Level III individual (or others) on their staff to provide “SPECIFIC” NDT training which may be diluted to meet specific employer needs. This results in possible shortfalls for individuals not learning some of the subjects in NDT topical outlines like, e.g., (ASNT CP-105, or ISO/TS 25107).
As an option for employers, they may contract services from a training organization or NDT consultant. It is commonplace for employers to “assume” the consultant or training organization “knows” what to teach, because they’re “Level III’s”, or “in the training business”.
Considering both options, while these “Trainers” may have an amount of NDT technical knowledge, does this qualify them as capable in instructing an NDT class? (Do they know how to teach)?
This presentation addresses inherent NDT Training shortfalls and ways to improve this process.
Employers may have a Level III individual (or others) on their staff to provide “SPECIFIC” NDT training which may be diluted to meet specific employer needs. This results in possible shortfalls for individuals not learning some of the subjects in NDT topical outlines like, e.g., (ASNT CP-105, or ISO/TS 25107).
As an option for employers, they may contract services from a training organization or NDT consultant. It is commonplace for employers to “assume” the consultant or training organization “knows” what to teach, because they’re “Level III’s”, or “in the training business”.
Considering both options, while these “Trainers” may have an amount of NDT technical knowledge, does this qualify them as capable in instructing an NDT class? (Do they know how to teach)?
This presentation addresses inherent NDT Training shortfalls and ways to improve this process.
Biography
A.M. (Marty) Wenzig is a member of the ASNT Advocacy, SNT-TC-1A, ASNT CP-189 committees, ASNT CS Authorized Training Organization (ATO) Committee Chair, and is an ASNT Fellow. He has undergraduate degrees in Welding Technology and Material Sciences; Mr. Wenzig was an ASNT NDT Level III, ACCP Professional Level III, AWS CWI and CWE, ISO-9712 / EN 473 Level 3, and NAVSEA Examiner. Mr. Wenzig was President of Industrial Testing Laboratory Services and Director of ITLS Nuclear Technical Institute (1999 to 2020), Mission Manager of SPEC Group (1996-1999), Vice President of Ionics Incorporated (1985-1996), and authored several articles on NDT in Materials Evaluation, Power Magazine, and Quality Magazine.
Paul E Deeds Jr.
Paul Deeds is a retired Principal Level III at Entergy Nuclear Operations and the Westinghouse Electric Company. He continues to work part-time as a quality auditor and consultant to the energy industry. He serves on the ASNT Board of Managers for the newly formed ASNT Certification Services, LLC and is Chairman of Accreditation.
He holds a BS in Quality Engineering, a MS in Project Management, an ASNT Level III, an AWS Senior CWI certification, an ASQ Auditor certification, and a Nuclear Lead Auditor. He is the recipient of the AWS District 2 CWI of the Year award, nominee for the national CWI of the Year award, and EPRI Technology Transfer award.
He is a Fellow and Life member of the American Society of Nondestructive Testing and past Chairman and longtime treasurer of the Metro New York / Northern New Jersey section. He has been an ASNT Level III in five methods for 45 years, a charter member of the ASNT Standards Council, and the chair of the ILI-PQ, along with the CP-189 and SNT-TC -1A Interpretation Committees. He is also a Life Member of ASME, AWS, and the American Nuclear Society.
